Shinobi for the Neo Geo!
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AlxUnderBase
Enlightened
Now the sound is good in .neo file (i tested in console neo geo - aes core in MiSTer) (the previous has sound dropped after few seconds) . i’d like to test it in the MVS arcade core too in MiSTer but there i need to use the correct .mra file and i dont know how to make it . Please , can you let me know how to create the correct mra file to use in the Arcade core (MVS) ?
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witch use the Darksoft neo geo set
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In order to test this properly, I think that a trainer version is needed. Then you can finish the game or focus on finding errors quietly without the stress of getting killed and playing over and over.
I have prepared such a version. You can see the prom file attached. You should have invincibility with this. Nothing fancy as all the info is in MAME.
Please let me know how it works for you.
@h0ffman let me know if you are OK with me posting this here.
Thanks.
I have prepared such a version. You can see the prom file attached. You should have invincibility with this. Nothing fancy as all the info is in MAME.
Please let me know how it works for you.
@h0ffman let me know if you are OK with me posting this here.
Thanks.
No issue with that, except if it states Checksum failed on the text intro, then it will break later on.
I can probably wrap up a build with that built in though as I have it as a debug switch.
How about a mission select too?
I can probably wrap up a build with that built in though as I have it as a debug switch.
How about a mission select too?
This was tested on System16. No CRC has been bypassed on the NeoGeo, so it will fail probably.
Sounds great.
That would involve some kind of menu, which I can't do right now. Maybe someone else wants to do it?
The current mission being played is stored in FFD780 and seems to be initialized at PC=A68.
Hi @h0ffman !
I've built a MVS cartmod with the V1.1, and tested it on an AES console with a Furrtek Fusion converter this afternoon...
Same glitches as before, but only on two of my three AES consoles. Those consoles have AES3-4 and AES3-5 motherboard revisions. Those revisions are very similar.
My third console, is a very early revision : just AES, it's quite different from the other two, and the game works perfectly with it (I've tested with multiAES, multiMVS with a converter and the flashcart
that uses .neo files :p ).
For information, the level starts normally, but after a short while it starts glitching. It can happen in any level, mostly after a jump, and after loosing a life and starting again, everything is back to normal...until the glitch is back.
We already talked about it with h0ffman, he tried several modifications (in the code I suppose), but the problem is still here on my two consoles.
I have no such issue with any of my MVS slots, or my NeogeoCD console, just those two AES consoles...
A friend will lend me a console tomorrow evening, a late AES revision, and I'll see what happens.
@Darksoft : is it possible to add some blank slots in the games list of your multiAES/MVS carts? Called "test1" or "hombrew" for example? I would make testing exotic romsets much much easier than replacing existing games. many thanks
I've built a MVS cartmod with the V1.1, and tested it on an AES console with a Furrtek Fusion converter this afternoon...
Same glitches as before, but only on two of my three AES consoles. Those consoles have AES3-4 and AES3-5 motherboard revisions. Those revisions are very similar.
My third console, is a very early revision : just AES, it's quite different from the other two, and the game works perfectly with it (I've tested with multiAES, multiMVS with a converter and the flashcart
that uses .neo files :p ).
For information, the level starts normally, but after a short while it starts glitching. It can happen in any level, mostly after a jump, and after loosing a life and starting again, everything is back to normal...until the glitch is back.
We already talked about it with h0ffman, he tried several modifications (in the code I suppose), but the problem is still here on my two consoles.
I have no such issue with any of my MVS slots, or my NeogeoCD console, just those two AES consoles...
A friend will lend me a console tomorrow evening, a late AES revision, and I'll see what happens.
@Darksoft : is it possible to add some blank slots in the games list of your multiAES/MVS carts? Called "test1" or "hombrew" for example? I would make testing exotic romsets much much easier than replacing existing games. many thanks
DelsArcade
Enthusiast
Been reading through this forum topic with interest. Great work so far guys! Just wanted to put that out there.
Del
Del
I just tested on mame right know, finished the game w/o any cheats turned on.
What I found, at close range when you attack making a punch or a sword hit the ninja should shout, to be honest he shouts nut its to low that it's almost inaudible.
I Found 2 graphic errors.... At stage 2-4, after beat the chopper, the chopper should dive behind the water, at stage 3-4 just some color error.
Beside this 2 graphic errors and the shout when the ninja hits at closed range everything else is perfect even 2 glitches that I know remained .
PS: I noticed that the score changes the last digit even not using continue and noticed too that some enemies spawn at diferent places occured 2 times, and when boss from stage 1 and 4 are beaten they should shout too, they shout but too low, almost inaudible.
What I found, at close range when you attack making a punch or a sword hit the ninja should shout, to be honest he shouts nut its to low that it's almost inaudible.
I Found 2 graphic errors.... At stage 2-4, after beat the chopper, the chopper should dive behind the water, at stage 3-4 just some color error.
Beside this 2 graphic errors and the shout when the ninja hits at closed range everything else is perfect even 2 glitches that I know remained .
PS: I noticed that the score changes the last digit even not using continue and noticed too that some enemies spawn at diferent places occured 2 times, and when boss from stage 1 and 4 are beaten they should shout too, they shout but too low, almost inaudible.
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Yep, fully aware of these.
1. Weird graphics tiles, yep. Sorry to say I ain't fixing those now. Changed to the graphics conversion would misalign a bunch of the other hacka I out in place.
2. Audio. The original sounds were so low quality they turned into distorted mess when put through the neo geo adpcm so I cleaned them up. Means they don't sound the same but they aren't painful to listen to
1. Weird graphics tiles, yep. Sorry to say I ain't fixing those now. Changed to the graphics conversion would misalign a bunch of the other hacka I out in place.
2. Audio. The original sounds were so low quality they turned into distorted mess when put through the neo geo adpcm so I cleaned them up. Means they don't sound the same but they aren't painful to listen to
OK, I have a hunch as to what might be going wrong and if this I'm right then it's a miracle other systems didn't exhibit issues.
I'm running both interrupts here, the timer being only on the docks stage ( to hide the sprites in the water ), but they both poke around with the VRAM address and modulo. What they didn't do was backup those values and restore them when done.
This means if the main "thread" was part way through writing stuff to vram and the interrupt kicks in, when it comes out, the address and modulo could well be different.
Now, this is only a hunch, but god I hope I'm right.
Below is a link to a test version. The soft dips / config page now include a mission select option. Also GOD mode is switched on, so you cannot die.
Careful though, the missions where you can fall to you death will result in you being stuck there till the timer runs out.
Hopefully this fixes the issues we've been seeing on AES.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y3OoDNHDR1ZjopwuMn_pxczMyZqbx84E/view?usp=sharing
I'm running both interrupts here, the timer being only on the docks stage ( to hide the sprites in the water ), but they both poke around with the VRAM address and modulo. What they didn't do was backup those values and restore them when done.
This means if the main "thread" was part way through writing stuff to vram and the interrupt kicks in, when it comes out, the address and modulo could well be different.
Now, this is only a hunch, but god I hope I'm right.
Below is a link to a test version. The soft dips / config page now include a mission select option. Also GOD mode is switched on, so you cannot die.
Careful though, the missions where you can fall to you death will result in you being stuck there till the timer runs out.
Hopefully this fixes the issues we've been seeing on AES.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y3OoDNHDR1ZjopwuMn_pxczMyZqbx84E/view?usp=sharing
Hi
I've played this last version on 3 different consoles :
Console with NEO-AES mother board : no problem at all, just like with V1.1
Console with NEO-AES3-4 mother board : sadly, the problem is still here, just like with V1.1
Console with NEO-AES3-6 mother board : no problem al all, with test romset or V1.1.
I'm pretty sure it has to do with hardware differences. NEO-AES mb is very different from following revisions : many chips are different, but the other two consoles have same custom chips (as far as I remember).
I'll check in details hardware differences, takes pictures etc... and see what differs.
for information, I played the game from start to the end several times on NEO-AES and NEO-AES3-6 consoles, trying hard to trigger the glitch, and it never happened at all.
On the other hand, it was very easy to trigger it on NEO-AES3-4 console (and NEO-AES3-5 console with V1.1).
I've played this last version on 3 different consoles :
Console with NEO-AES mother board : no problem at all, just like with V1.1
Console with NEO-AES3-4 mother board : sadly, the problem is still here, just like with V1.1
Console with NEO-AES3-6 mother board : no problem al all, with test romset or V1.1.
I'm pretty sure it has to do with hardware differences. NEO-AES mb is very different from following revisions : many chips are different, but the other two consoles have same custom chips (as far as I remember).
I'll check in details hardware differences, takes pictures etc... and see what differs.
for information, I played the game from start to the end several times on NEO-AES and NEO-AES3-6 consoles, trying hard to trigger the glitch, and it never happened at all.
On the other hand, it was very easy to trigger it on NEO-AES3-4 console (and NEO-AES3-5 console with V1.1).
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Shin
Student
ha, must have missed it, I'm told I can't DL a file if it's in your GD trashbin or something, or was godmode updated as a dipswitch in a newer release on itchio?
anyways, thanks for your work!
Edit : my bad, worked fine with jdownloader, cheers !
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Hi there,
I'm trying to make a MVS cart for me with Shinobi roms, but i'm stucked cuz I can't get any sound from the game.
MVS board is ok, tested another games and all have sound.
I'm using PROGTOP and CHA256, using 27C010 for M1, J2 and J3 jumped, J1 and J4 open.
Teorically should be ok, but I desoldered M1 and tried to read in my eprom programmer but my programmer couldn't read it, so I think bad M1, just program another.
No deal, programmed another one and no sound at all, tried in another CHA256 board no sound at all either.
My V roms are programmed in 4 27c160, EP1 is a 27c4096, C roms are 2 27c160, S1 27C010 with pin 2 and 24 switched.
On PROG Board I have J13, J17, J16, J10 and J1 jumped the others all opened,
I don't know what I'm missing and don't know what to look for, maybe someone could give some advice.
I'm trying to make a MVS cart for me with Shinobi roms, but i'm stucked cuz I can't get any sound from the game.
MVS board is ok, tested another games and all have sound.
I'm using PROGTOP and CHA256, using 27C010 for M1, J2 and J3 jumped, J1 and J4 open.
Teorically should be ok, but I desoldered M1 and tried to read in my eprom programmer but my programmer couldn't read it, so I think bad M1, just program another.
No deal, programmed another one and no sound at all, tried in another CHA256 board no sound at all either.
My V roms are programmed in 4 27c160, EP1 is a 27c4096, C roms are 2 27c160, S1 27C010 with pin 2 and 24 switched.
On PROG Board I have J13, J17, J16, J10 and J1 jumped the others all opened,
I don't know what I'm missing and don't know what to look for, maybe someone could give some advice.
GeorgeSpinner
Grand Master
Did you try reading the second M1? What chip are you using?